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Responses to the Baptist Faith and Message

Every person, male or female, is responsible to God, not human beings, for God's call upon his or her life. Every local church is responsible to God for affirming through ordination those they believe God has called to lead and pastor, male or female.

To limit the office of pastor to men in effect limits the individual in her ability to respond to God's call. It limits the local church in her freedom to affirm the work of the Spirit; and most seriously, it limits the power and freedom of God to call whomever God's person is for that moment and time of leadership.

Raye Nell Dyer, 
President of Baptist Women in Ministry

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So, the SBC leaders-who trumpeted "biblical inerrancy" as a battle cry to gain and implement control of the convention during the past 20 years-have a high view of scripture, after all. In fact, it's higher than we thought. Rather than a Trinity, they worship a de-facto Quartet: Father, Son, Holy Spirit and Holy Bible, with the Bible acting as the arbiter of the other three.

This is dangerous, for several reasons. 

First, it refutes orthodoxy-which asserts the primacy of the Godhead: Father, Son and Holy Spirit-by exalting the Bible to near-divinity and supplanting the influence of Jesus.

Second, by elevating a thing, as precious and authoritative as the Bible is, to such lofty status, it at least implies idolatry, the worship of something other than God.

Third, it denigrates the influence of Jesus and the power of the Holy Spirit to work in lives and guide them toward God's will.

Fourth, it begs a vital question: Who then is to provide the authoritative interpretation of all scripture?

If scripture stands over Jesus, then the teachings and actions of Jesus are inadequate. If the Jesus can be imitated (as one SBC leader indicated), then individuals can be led astray. So, who will provide authoritative interpretation? Some SBC leaders seem only too eager to step up to the chair of authority. Yet they are mere men, not apostles, and certainly not God.

Fortunately, Texas Baptists reaffirmed the 1963 Baptist Faith & Message last fall. At the time, most people saw it as a reaction to the SBC's 1998 article on the family, which was important. But it was much more than that.

By reaffirming the '63 version, Texas Baptists staked our claim for the doctrinal statement that holds a high, reverential view of scripture. But it places scripture in the appropriate context-at the feet of our Lord and Savior, God incarnate, Jesus Christ.

Excerpt from editorial by Marv Knox, 
The Baptist Standard

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  The consequence of the new Faith and Message, in distinction from the 1963 version, will not be to unify, but to divide. Its purpose is clearly to separate the "true believers" from the "impostors" and force the latter to leave the denomination. ...

 Previous generations of Baptists stood for bold, important truths: evangelism, spiritual freedom, church renewal and unity, social impact.

 Nowadays, we seem to concentrate on smaller things. Like telling local churches whom to call as pastors; discerning whether charismatics have a correct understanding of the baptism of the Holy Spirit; carefully listing of all the different "vices;" and keeping women in their place. Maybe in the next revision of the Faith and Message, we'll decide how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

Mike Turner, 
pastor of First Baptist Church, Jacksonville, N.C.

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"The convention has a right to vote whatever it wants to, but it should not take this document and use it as a creed. It shouldn't make a single seminary professor sign it, it shouldn't make a single missionary pledge allegiance to it.

"It should be what it's supposed to be - a confession of faith passed by the messengers who attended this convention of what Baptists generally believe."

David Currie, 
TBC Coordinator
as quoted in The Dallas Morning News

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The decision to exclude women from pastoring is not about scripture. It is a question of power and authority - a question that has no place in the life of any congregation. No Christian exercises control over another's interpretation of God's call on his or her life.

In mandating that congregations submit to requirements of the convention in choosing whom they will ordain or whom they will call to pastor, the SBC has once again departed from its roots as Baptists and overstepped autonomy of the local church. The Baptist Faith and Message statement, a statement of faith in its beginnings, has become a creedal document... .

The Holy Spirit has always been about breaking through into a new age, and demonstrating a Gospel of love, inclusion and reconciliation. We who do not agree with the SBC are again lumped into the mix, and will have to spend hours defending our positions, being embarrassed by this body, and bringing the Gospel of love into the forefront. The SBC has again put stumbling blocks in the way of reaching people who are hurting, lost and alone. That is its biggest tragedy.

Sue Enoch,
 Pastor of Prescott Memorial Baptist Church, 
Memphis, Tenn.

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The Southern Baptist Convention's proposed Baptist Faith & Message statement contains a few pleasant surprises. But it also diminishes the convention's focus on Jesus and takes a slide down the slippery slope away from Baptist heritage. It is an exclusive, rather than inclusive, document. Its adoption may lead some churches to follow their consciences outside the SBC fold. 

Marv Knox, 
editor, The Baptist Standard

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"Even among those who personally do not support women serving as pastor, there are many who would not presume to tell another church whom that congregation could or could not call," Wade said.

"The right of a church to determine who should be pastor is severely limited by this statement. It is a violation of local church autonomy that many Baptists would find offensive."

Charles Wade,
Executive Director, BGCT

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"It is religion gone sick. To say we don't continue to learn from Christ and relate to Christ through the Spirit quite honestly is heresy."

David Currie, TBC Coordinator
as quoted in the Houston Chronicle

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"There are always people who would like to volunteer to be the approved interpreter of scripture for your conscience. And Baptists have been so reluctant to do that because they have feared what creeds have been used to do-to manipulate conformity-and they have feared ecclesiastical control. We have been confident that truth is always God's truth and that it will win out. And if men and women will faithfully live the scripture, proclaim the truth of the Bible, proclaim the truth the Bible presents, then all will be well.

"We need no creed to define what the Bible says, and we need no confession of faith if it is going to be used as a creed. That's been the Baptist position since we've been Baptists."

Charles Wade, Executive Director, BGCT 
as quoted in The Baptist Standard

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"They are trying to put God in a box, and Texas Baptists are not going to stand for it."

"More likely than quitting the SBC, the 6000 Texas BGCT churches might redirect some of the $49 million in contributions to seminaries outside the SBC, where they are teaching about Jesus and not telling women to keep their mouths shut."

David Currie, 
TBC Coordinator 

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Baptists who place Jesus over the Bible still affirm the full authority of the Bible upon their lives. They do not exalt personal experience over scripture; rather, they base their decisions upon scripture. But some passages are paradoxical; they say different things about the same subject. In those occasions, Jesus-first people look to Jesus for help in understanding what the biblical norm means, for help in applying the scripture to their lives.

Marv Knox, editor, 
The Baptist Standard as quoted in USA Today

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"I wish they wouldn't do some of that stuff. I think it gets misunderstood and misinterpreted. There are certain things in the faith that are non-negotiable; I'm not sure (the all-female pastorate) is one of them."

Rev. Jim Queen, 
Director of the Chicago Metropolitan Baptist Association as quoted in the Chicago Tribune

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"We needed to clarify that the Bible is not merely the record of God's revelation, but is itself God's revealed Word in written form." (emphasis added)  (Adrian)

Statement to the Convention from the committee revising the Baptist Faith and Message.

This committee was Chaired by Adrian Rogers, pastor Bellevue Baptist Church in Memphis since 1960.

 "The one and only authority for faith and practice is the New Testament as the divinely inspired record and interpretation of the supreme revelation of God through Jesus Christ as Redeemer, Savior and Lord." (emphasis added)

1946 Report from the Committee on Statement of Principles at the Centennial Meeting of the SBC.

R.G. Lee, pastor of Bellevue Baptist Church in Memphis 1927-60, was a member of that Committee.

 -Compiled by Bruce Prescott, 
Mainstream Oklahoma Baptists

July 2000